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« on: June 18, 2004, 06:19:26 PM »

I just got a new pc that had windows 2000 already installed,(with no cd however) when i updated from microsft the computer shut restarted each time it finished starting windows.
I got a copy of windows ME operating system but can't seem to install it successfully.
Could some one tell me how to do it or give me a link to a website with step by step instructions as i'm not used to installing in dos.
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2004, 10:26:52 PM »

Microsoft simply decided to hide this option in Windows ME, for some unknown reason...

This patch will modify "IO.SYS", "COMMAND.COM" and "REGENV32.EXE" in order to unhide the Real DOS-Mode on Windows ME systems, resulting in a similar boot process to the one available in Windows 9x. This will allow, for example, to reach DOS directly by pressing "Shift-F8" at boot-up, to use "CONFIG.SYS" and "AUTOEXEC.BAT" before Windows loads, and to set up a startup menu.

This patch was tested only with the final release of Win ME (build 4.90.3000). It might be compatible with other (future or previous) builds as well.

More info...
http://www.geocities.com/mfd4life_2000/

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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2004, 10:44:17 PM »

With respect, Cactus - you've answered a question that I can't find in the OP - and with advice that is known to give rise to a lot of problems.
One problem that arises from the use of the Geocities tweak is the loss of use of System restore, and possibly also System File Protection. There have also been reports that it breaks Safe Mode.

Aicky
I would advse you NOT to install the Geocties patch
For instructions on clean-installing ME, look in your CD for the file CLEANHD.TXT, and/or look at the following  site.
http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/clean.htm

post back if you have more problems.
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2004, 11:10:29 PM »

I'm not sure if either of these solutions would help. I can't even start windows (at present i'm using my old pc) and i got as far as reconfigering the hard drive but after about 15% it comes up as an error and goes back to DOS.
I only have a CD Rom to install do you think I need a floppy disc to install windows properly?
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2004, 11:18:37 PM »

Also when the first problem arose with the windows 2000 i had on the system it wouldn't start in any mode including safe mode. Now with the changes it won't go as far as the starting windows bit.
I think its a complete reinstall i need but i'm getting error messages doing so.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2004, 11:24:28 PM »

Hi Noel..
I did a little more searching and yes there has been issues with this Patch...specificly with different countries.
The patch is not only OS Version specific but country specific as well...because of alot of the issues.

I guess my first question should have been "why would you want to uninstall a much higher quality OS like Win2000 for an OS that is rated the worst OS Microsoft came out with,WinME?

Unless you have a Win98 boot disk burnt to a CD...you need a floppy.

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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2004, 09:06:23 AM »

Win ME is no worse than any  other of the Win9x series - it just wasn't what people were expectinging it to be. If you go to it without the preconceptions, it's actually pretty good, and has some serious advantages over the earlier incarnations.

Aicky - if you don't have an ME boot disk, you can downlaod an OEM ME diskmaker from www.bootdisk.com run it to create teh boot disk, then fdisk and reformat the HD, and install ME using that.
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2004, 12:06:13 PM »

Thats your opinion....because if you did any research you'd see what people thought about ME.WinME is watered down,no funtionality.
ME is good for kids...

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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2004, 12:29:44 PM »

On the contrary - it's FACT!
Win ME can do anything in Windows that any other Win9x system can - but because Real-Mode DOS was removed from its capabilities people ***** continually about 'I cant run my old DOS programs in ME'
Why should the want/need to?  - if they really need those programs they can always run them from a DOS boot via floppy

Getting a new OS is about looking FORWARD, not back, and supporting new hardware (drives over 2GB, PCI/AGP, USB, PII/III processors!)properly.

Opinions only come into play when users go into a new OS with preconceptions over what it's supposed to be able to do - and it has to be said that ME was the most overhyped OS that MS ever released, as it was billed as a halfway house between NT and 9x (which it was never designed to be). Yes, there were one or two minor bugs (and one major one) in the OS at release - which were patched on WU quickly (or at least well in time - the System Restore patch was up for 6 months prior to the date the bug it addresses was due to bite).

The problems arose simply, IMO, because its release coincided with the advent of the idea of 'a connected PC in every home' - and an explosion in the number of newbies using computers who knew nothing about system maintenance or the Internet. ME is no less stable than 98, and does have advantages (SFP/SR) which if used properly give it much greater resilience than 98.
ME has ALL the Windows functionality of 98 - show me something it can't do!!
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2004, 12:49:39 PM »

Like I said YOU are entitled to your opinion....doesn't mean your right.
Other views:
Reviewed by: winmesucks, from unknown
Strengths: NONE
Weaknesses: Everything
Summary:  Win ME is just Win98 with more bugs! It is terrible. ME is the single worst OS that I have used in my life. If you are going to use windows, you should upgrade to an NT based OS(such as 2000 Professional Or XP). Otherwise LINUX RULES!
Dos based operating systems are ****!

Reviewed by: mey1602, from MO
Strengths: Not many. It looks cooler than 98se
Weaknesses: Millions of weaknesses. Crashes and freezes all the time. Continously gets the windows blue screen of death.
Summary:  Overall this os completey blows. It sucks. There aren't even any words to describe how bad this os is. Ever since the first week i got it on my dell system it has crashed and froze. It has to many bugs to count. The only thing it has going for it is that it looks neater and cooler than 98se and has a few more options. System restore is a joke. I had to use it a couple of times and then one time i used and it completely messed up my computer. I had to reinstall it once. It can't take any games. They just mess it up even more. After i reinstalled it i didn't put any of my games back on and it still crashes. i recommend xp pro any day. i have it on my other computer and it is awesome. i can throw anything at it. I put all my games on it and it stills runs smoothly. I have had xp for about a year and its only froze up once or twice and that was when i was playing a game. I cant even remember how many times me has froze. Even though me has a lot of bugs i think i still prefer it over 98 because it has a few more features and its a little newer. But now that xp and 2000 are out i wouldn't even touch me or 98. Take my advice and buy xp pro.plus xp looks cooler and has more options than me.

Reviewed by: x_game, from unknown
Strengths: Strengths Huh? this is the same **** that windows98 is.. just takes much more space on hdd

Weaknesses: Win ME is one big hole.. and if ur online.. with ME your calling people to hack you.. "hey people come hack me I'v got Windows ME" do NOT install this

Summary:  Windows ME is a piece of junk that should not be installed on any PC.. becouse holes in security. unstabillity and other ****.. My suggestion is Windows 2000 professional.. 2000 pro. is the best OS i have ever used and it's got that damn stabillity.. of course 128-256mb of ram needed.. OR. windows XP professional..

Reviewed by: ladybelynda, from FL
Strengths: none

Weaknesses: everything

Summary:  I purchased a computer with this OS and let me tell you, I have never been so frustrated, disgusted, and dissappointed with a product in all my life. The straw that finally "BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK" for me was when my explorer crashed 3 weeks ago. I started experiencing freeze ups and having to shut down my computer by turning off the power every time it froze, that was maybe once or twice a month, now I can't use my PC for anything without it freezing up. I've even had to restore my entire system once I can't believe that microsoft would sell such trash, and even worse I can't believe that any computer company would sell computers with this me OS. I would advise anyone looking to use this OS, please don't waste your time, money or anything else with this. I was told recently that there are patches for fixing most if not all problems, but I find that hard to believe. Any how the heck can I download patches if my explorer is crashed.

Lot's more reviews like this one.
Everyone has a different opinion Noel,some people like it most don't.
And I'm not going to get into a debate here on what is a good or bad os.
The FACT is it's the WORST OS Microsoft came out with...

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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2004, 01:12:10 PM »

Opinions are like A%%holes - everybody's got one! <g>

I wouldn't take any notice of those opinions - even if you paid me - since the first is obviously from a linux-groupie, and the others posted not a single FACT between them (and I suspect that all were running Norton from OEM installs - which is the biggest cause of problems seen in ME)

Lets stick to facts - what does ME lack in Windows that 98 doesn't?
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2004, 01:14:19 PM »

Usefullness....

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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2004, 01:29:16 PM »

IOW, you don't have a fact - only an opinion.
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